Jukin Media Extorts YouTuber MxR By Abusing YouTube's Awful Copyright System

11 jaan 2020
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SOURCE 1: eeworld.info/chat/w6x9g4WbjYLJsqY/video
SOURCE 2: twitter.com/mmoxreview/status/1215493310711644160
SOURCE 3: www.jukinmedia.com/why-work-with-jukin
SOURCE 4: twitter.com/JukinMedia/status/1215557760785371136
SOURCE 5: eeworld.infocopyright/fair-use/#yt-copyright-four-factors
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  • So long as EEworld refuses to overhaul their abusable "suffer consequences now prove innocence later" copyright system, any content creator is open for this kind of scummy exploitation and blatant extortion. Contribute to my channel on Patreon.com/YongYea or by clicking the JOIN button, and you can also follow me on Twitter.com/YongYea for the latest updates. TOP PATRONS [CIPHER] - Shaun [BIG BOSS] - Brin - Parker Larson - Vin Giorgio - Zach Spike [BOSS] - Alex Moretti - BobaFett912 - Charlie Galvin - Joe Hunt - Jonathan Ball - Kevin Barnett - Michael Redmond - Michael Shuler - Peter Vrba - Shepard Gaming - Time Dragonlord [LEGENDARY] - Abdulaziz al Senaidi - Alessandro Ceriotti - BattleBladeWar - Darien Cunningham - Gerardo Andrade - Lex Henry - Mark Taylor - Prismat Dragoon - Theron Webb - Tyler Thompson - Yue

    YongYeaYongYea10 місяців tagasi
    • Why the hell are we still on EEworld?!!!! We really need to stop using this site! Yongs plea to EEworld at the end made me laugh.... YT is never and will never do anything about it Yong. You know this so why waste your breath? This is the way communists/socialists think. Guilty until proven innocent.

      The DragonThe Dragon10 місяців tagasi
    • You guys should really check out the Legal Eagle channel on EEworld where an actual lawyer breaks down this hole situation and turns out Jukin isn't really extorting MxR, and MxR isn't quite as innocent or as big of victims as they play it up.

      David SzaksDavid Szaks10 місяців tagasi
    • Mxr plays has done a good job at using the EEworld drama method to gain public support when they should have spoke to a lawyer or at least someone with legal expertise on how they should proceed. In one of their videos they start off by saying something like," I'm going to play a bunch of different videos in order to make Jeanie laugh." This isn't a strong case of fair use. You also can't expect to get rid of the fines by editing your videos after the fact. You can't return a stolen car and expect to remove any charges of auto theft. If you are using copyrighted videos through fair use, you don't have to worry about being charged for using copyrighted material. If you use copyrighted material in your video and just say it's funny, you should be more worried about being charged for using copyright material and learn about what constitutes fair use. What EEworld needs to do better is to better educate all content creators on what constitutes fair use. Playing a copyrighted video in the corner of the screen while showing footage of you laughing isn't much different front straight up reuploading the copyrighted video in the eyes of fair use.

      zeke kzeke k10 місяців tagasi
    • Imagine you getting strike because of this video. It will be hilarious.

      Ikhsan KamilIkhsan Kamil10 місяців tagasi
    • Gobrox that’s a good idea they have Union in the work force

      Eddie ValdezEddie Valdez10 місяців tagasi
  • You should get ready to sue everybody now and save the bs for...never...bc it's coming and you know it...

    Mike MaddenMike Madden4 päeva tagasi
  • almost every clip i like I find the original page? ps different but reminds ne of Napster but that was fair.. pss monopoly

    DavidDavid21 päev tagasi
  • We need to get an alternative to EEworld, and soon.

    Taiwan is a countryTaiwan is a country26 päeva tagasi
  • This also happened recently to a guy named Gareth Evans. His channel Goliath Guitar Tutorials was hit with 5 copystrikes. He wrote free guitar tabs for his viewers. He had to take down 400 videos of free tabs that he wrote. And remove his site with those tabs. Now he has to license his tabs and charge people for them. Stupid corporations and their greedy hands. Funny thing is they were already making money off of his videos. They just wanted more

    Matt McBethMatt McBeth2 місяці tagasi
  • It's too bad Google will never allow any other platform to compete with EEworld. And I bet this comment will be cencored like it usually is...

    - The•Last•Crow -- The•Last•Crow -2 місяці tagasi
  • It happened again to MXR, again. One more strike to them then channel will be deleted. :(

    James DeeJames Dee2 місяці tagasi
  • You don't have the resources but you have the influencers. More you tubers need to call this out for the sake of their own financial independence. Outrage is a accessible resource but you need to put some effort in it. Great content yong thanks for reporting, more influencers should take this responsibilitie

    JohnnieWaIkerJohnnieWaIker3 місяці tagasi
  • never used Jukin and never will

    JT JTJT JT3 місяці tagasi
  • Copyrighting memes... Who could've imagined

    RomskiiRomskii4 місяці tagasi
  • I'm usually on your side Yong, but this is just 15 minutes of ignorance and the comments too. Even though I don't like whats happening, peoples opinion on how stuff works does not equate to how the law works.

    krinordkrinord5 місяців tagasi
  • i have a freaking copyright warning from my facebook for upload a video of a sonic

    Mauricio TheGamerMauricio TheGamer7 місяців tagasi
  • MxR was in the wrong. Reaction videos are not fair use, for the most part. The Volcano video reaction wasn't a small portion. It was the whole video. You might not like it, but someone else owns it. This is different from the =3 case. That clearly had a transformative purpose. Jukin media was in the wrong. They have the right to threaten legal action, especially legal action that has a good chance to be meritorious. That's not extortion as it is legally defined under US law. Where things get sketchy is the threatening of copyright strikes. Even if MxR legally owes Jukin money, Jukin media has to walk a fine line. Threatening someone with a criminal complaint, as opposed to a civil complaint, unless you pay them money, IS extortion as defined by law. So where does a copyright strike fall? It's not a criminal complaint, but it's not exactly a civil complaint either, since it's internal to EEworld and not in the court system. For example, demanding that someone pay you money or you will reveal their affair to their spouse IS extortion. Threatening a copyright strike, rather than merely seeking financial damages your entitled to, might be seen as akin to the advice example. Then again, issuing strike is a formal thing with a appeals process. So a good case can be made either way. So is it actually extortion as legally defined or just aggressive and unethical collection practices? Smart people can disagree. In any event, the fact that MxR kept having it's videos claimed by Junkin means it had fair warning. It most likely did not make fair use of the content in reproduced. They are six or maybe seven figure EEworld channel. To act like they are some small mom and pop shop that can't afford legal advice is ridiculous. They aren't the little guy, and nether is Jukin. Jukin however, acted in a legally gray area. They may not have broken the law, but they certainly were right on the line between legal and ilegal. So in the end, given that both sides had problems and did stupid things, it's not surprising that they settled out of court. Had MxR simply sought sound legal advice they could have avoided all of this. They could havereached a global settlement licensing agreement with Jukin. Instead, they acted out of ignorance of what the law actually says. This is a lesson for business people everywhere. When in doubt, seek sound legal advice. And finally, some people of EEworld won't care what the facts are. They will just always side with the creator. Unfortunately, the law and the facts actually matter.

    NM Mike FellmanNM Mike Fellman7 місяців tagasi
  • should people counter suit them for harassment and fault claim ?

    quang khai tranquang khai tran7 місяців tagasi
  • Thought reaction videos were fair use.

    MechE11BMechE11B7 місяців tagasi
  • The problem is they arent going to go to court. I'm glad you brought up fair use. But unless they pay the money to go to court it doesn't matter.

    Dylan LloydDylan Lloyd7 місяців tagasi
  • Jukin Media is worldwide famous for extorting youtubers. A brazilian youtuber almost killed himself because of those scammers

    Maluzius NetworkMaluzius Network8 місяців tagasi
  • Is this why they changed their name to ThisIsHappening?

    Chi Yin YewChi Yin Yew8 місяців tagasi
  • EEworld vs *Pornhub*

    NiconachoZ StudioNiconachoZ Studio8 місяців tagasi
  • Warner music group is another jukin media

    broski yeetsbroski yeets8 місяців tagasi
  • Hey Yea, Many thanks for this Video. Not does Jukin Shit on everyones video on EEworld but they have been a cancer for me for the past month on my facebook videos. They do not own the material I have uploaded but they felt the need to report on my videos as theres. It's damaging my channel and my motivation to do more. I have over 300k fans but I would hate to hink what they do for others!

    Ottoman TROttoman TR8 місяців tagasi
  • Wow what a scummy move.

    DarkEnergyDoctorDarkEnergyDoctor9 місяців tagasi
  • Give someone money for nothing. Be surprised when they come back for more. *surprised pikachu face*

    ImmoralWombatImmoralWombat9 місяців tagasi
  • i wouldnt even be suprise if that shitty company would flag or strike this channel too lol

    CreshanaCreshana9 місяців tagasi
  • 580 dislike morons.

    Jordzyi1Jordzyi110 місяців tagasi
  • My most viewed video was claimed by them somehow

    S1L0S1L010 місяців tagasi
  • MxR only make click bait videos anyway. Though it's not right for the junkie media to file their such unreasonable bills.

    belldandygbelldandyg10 місяців tagasi
  • hackers go after junken media and target them

    Bored BoredBored Bored10 місяців tagasi
  • I like them.... Jukin media i like them. Because what they are doing is legal. They should not use videos licensed by other companies. Its not like mxr has some talent, they just react.... Reacting is not talent, I think Jukin media should have sent more than 1500

    vaibhav thatholavaibhav thathola10 місяців tagasi
  • "Awful copyright"

    flat_footflat_foot10 місяців tagasi
  • they didnt abuse the system. that's how google designed it. yeah, jukin is just a symptom of the problem. google is the actual problem.

    sabin97sabin9710 місяців tagasi
  • violence inherent in the system! I'm being repressed!

    king james488king james48810 місяців tagasi
  • this is why you never give into blackmail... nothing to stop them from just asking for more. just tell them to shove it and back up your content...

    king james488king james48810 місяців tagasi
  • Why doesn't the vigilante dispute jukin videos?

    Jeff BourkeJeff Bourke10 місяців tagasi
  • Guilty til proven innocent what a great system

    IgnisIgnis10 місяців tagasi
  • It's just another reaction channel completely full of clickbait. They get no respect from me.

    Zyrus SmithZyrus Smith10 місяців tagasi
  • Could have fooled me. I watched LegalEagle's video on this, and unlike h3h3 MxR are the cancerous form of "react" videos where they play the original works in their entirety and their only comment is "oh, isn't this funny". It's not transformative just because they steal many videos and put them together in a compilation or because they ad a "cool" somewhere.

    Hedning1390Hedning139010 місяців tagasi
  • Take them to Court

    Zerowing 321Zerowing 32110 місяців tagasi
  • Aside from the fair use and copyright extortion tolling bullshit... Even their business model is ridiculous. -- You can't license and be the single source for "viral" videos... If you do, then they're not actually viral... XD

    Michael JensenMichael Jensen10 місяців tagasi
  • Well this is pretty same as copyright trolls. :P Well ppl always have to find easy way to make money rofl.

    crazygreipcrazygreip10 місяців tagasi
  • Really hope there is a lawyer out there with a justice boner that is willing to lend some help.

    joel paltzerjoel paltzer10 місяців tagasi
  • I have seen videos of no more than a month since uploaded and get taken down just for like 5 seconds used from another video and I say "but it is covered by Fair Use". Also, I have seen videos getting taken down after like 10 years since upload, and I am like "Oh, hell no!... That's just Bu!!s#!+ Da hell youtube. 😕

    DelDelincuentesDelDelincuentes10 місяців tagasi
  • Jukin media is huge they're mainly famous for the channel FailArmy

    hunter boucherhunter boucher10 місяців tagasi
  • well. find them and kill them all. freaks from jukin media are humans and they are easy to kill.

    Ricky SpanishRicky Spanish10 місяців tagasi
  • Hmmm so in other words let all copy right this video of YongYea's cause he a witch and this be the witch hunt burn first ask questions later.

    All0Mighty0PowerAll0Mighty0Power10 місяців tagasi
  • Jukin media - your typical parasite of the industry. They add zero creative value and like a bottom feeder that they are, they only try to make easy money due to [insert some random nonesense rule/law etc].

    tyraelpltyraelpl10 місяців tagasi
  • I'm a fan of Fallout and Skyrim and enjoy videos about such games. This has prompted YT to direct me to MxR's channel in the past. Here is my undoubtedly unpopular opinion: the nature of his videos - and seemingly to an extent, himself - are simply perverse and juvenile. Slutty character models used for thumbnail clickbait in most of the videos recommended from his channel and from what I saw, a good part of his library. Does this excuse YT and Jukin Media of their actions? Absolutely not. Does this change my opinion of MxR? Not really. The dude strikes me as a creep, his girlfriend doesn't help that matter and his channel contains arguably questionable material. A controversy/scandal like this falls under "not surprising" or "inevitable". That is my end of my unpopular opinion.

    The DoctorThe Doctor10 місяців tagasi
  • Sounds like when Sony claimed Angry Joe's video for 4 seconds of a song that played

    FF10 місяців tagasi
  • Stuff like this is a reason why I'm afraid to start my EEworld channel

    jeremiah parkerjeremiah parker10 місяців tagasi
  • They doing MXR dirty?!

    ReaptheWhirlwindReaptheWhirlwind10 місяців tagasi
  • This is not an immersive mod

    sour lemon 333sour lemon 33310 місяців tagasi
  • no loss in my book, this selfloving, unfunny, little git mxr. maybe he learn modesty now.

    maik baumannmaik baumann10 місяців tagasi
  • Take them to the court

    Rounak ChakrabortyRounak Chakraborty10 місяців tagasi
  • mxr plays does not follow copyright laws. they just read a meme image and explain what its about lol

    NotTooFastNotTooFast10 місяців tagasi
  • YongYea, EEworld has become a corporation of elites controllers. Time to find other platforms that actually protects content creators. They won't change probably because EEworld is part of this copy right snake oil groups of elites. They just won't flat out admit it. There's a reason why I don't upload on EEworld anymore. Especially when it comes to fair use contents.

    WhyteLis21WhyteLis2110 місяців tagasi
  • I'd like to just direct everyone to LegalEagles video, for a more comprehensive understanding of the situation.

    Garren BrooksGarren Brooks10 місяців tagasi
  • Bro like he probably didn’t even know that the website existed. The person who made this website is complete aids and needs to gtfo.

    Pyromaniac 096Pyromaniac 09610 місяців tagasi
  • Nah, this is not extorsion.. these two knowingly steal other's content to make money. Noone who watched their video will watch the original content, they shit all over the little guys. They are lucky it's only one content owner that stands up to their leeching. They tried to remove their content after the fact? Oh yeah, I always steal people's shit and give it back only to those who ask me...

    gopipogopipo10 місяців tagasi
  • Jukin Media saw a channel that's prospering and their evil nature settled in.

    Darius ThompsonDarius Thompson10 місяців tagasi
  • It sounds to me like the Mafia. We will offer you "protection " for a price.

    AscalaphusAscalaphus10 місяців tagasi
  • I finally got to see this video and it’s Ridiculous. What are they thinking?

    EpyonwingsEpyonwings10 місяців tagasi
  • Take them to court, they don’t have a leg to stand on. I know time, money and stress is going to be painful but surely there’s a massive payout at the end of it.

    Paul JohnsonPaul Johnson10 місяців tagasi
  • I agree with this until 2 hours ago, when i found out EEworld is simply following an already shitty law that is Fair Use Clause. But seriously, that intro is so lame. if youtube is so bad close your channel.

    aGps44aGps4410 місяців tagasi
  • Meanwhile, the government doesn’t give a shit.

    The EngineerThe Engineer10 місяців tagasi
  • So is it now time for EEworldrs to unionise against EEworld's copyright system and abusers?

    Coffee DaemonCoffee Daemon10 місяців tagasi
  • This coin has two sides.. Becoming a famous EEworldr at the expenses of third party videos can also be considered not fair... The problem for me is the EEworld claims mechanics, that is what must be changed, but it does not mean some channels should keep gathering other people content when they can't do their own content...

    Carlos LoffCarlos Loff10 місяців tagasi
  • youtube.... youtube... youtube, everyone already hates you. why are you making us hate you more?

    Anonymous Off-BrandAnonymous Off-Brand10 місяців tagasi
  • jukin is like the EA of video rights

    Nathan NgNathan Ng10 місяців tagasi
  • The world does not want any single individual to be able to be in business for themselves. Work for a corporation or die, that's the way they want it.

    KillwithsoundKillwithsound10 місяців tagasi
  • A storm is coming...

    TurtleTurtle GamerTurtleTurtle Gamer10 місяців tagasi
  • Sweet Candy Coated Jesus.... This sounds like some kind of Mafia bull crap.... I wish the best for them. 😥

    C WC W10 місяців tagasi
  • So, hot take here, but I don't agree with MxR on this one. This is a complicated issue. First, let's start off with EEworld's responsibility in this. Absolutely none. This is between the copyright holder and the potential copyright infringer. The only thing that I believe EEworld has done wrong here, and that they could easily fix, is the "3 strikes and your channel is deleted" policy/system they've implemented. All that system does is encourage abuse as any nefarious party can strike 3 videos and the content creator would have little ability to handle things since their channel would be removed. How it should work is 3 strikes and your ability to post *new* content is taken away. Essentially locking the account from new activity and only allowing the user to appeal the existing strikes. All monetization would be disabled for the period the account was locked for. This would allow the content creator to deal with copyright strikes calmly without worrying their channel would be removed from existence. Then after say 6 months of an account being locked only then would EEworld delete the account. Gives plenty of time for the copyright holders to appropriately respond to appeals. Back to the MxR issue, while yes, it sucks that Junkin sent them a large fine per clip instead of just content ID matching them and taking the revenue that way, MxR still took somebody else's property without permission. And frankly, "reaction" videos are really the lowest form of entertainment in my opinion. For something to be "fair use" it has to be transformative in nature and fit within the confines of "news, comment, criticism, and education". Reacting to stuff may barely fit comment or criticism but that's interpreting it very loosely. Especially the kind of reaction videos where the content creator is literally watching the entire source video and just saying a few words and making a few facial expressions here and there. How anybody derives entertainment from somebody else watching entertainment is beyond me. My opinion aside, the point is that kind of video really skirts the line of being able to claim "fair use" and I would certainly would not be clinging to it for this example. Also, something Yong said, "it's clear Junkin isn't going out of their way to protect the license of these clips"...I mean...that's exactly what they're doing. What do you think "protect the license" means? Somebody pays the original owner of the clip some portion of revenue from the license fee associated with being able to use that clip. If somebody plays that clip without obtaining the license they're essentially stealing the clip for free and the original creator doesn't get any money thus defeating the purpose of why they went to Junkin Media in the first place. "Protecting the license" means exactly what Junkin did here. Preventing people from using a clip they did not legally buy the rights to show. If they didn't do that then they literally aren't protecting anything. Also suggesting that Junkin should be looking through MxR's entire video library to politely tell them what pieces of their property are stolen is like asking the victim of theft to look at all the property in a thief's house and politely let the thief know which items were stolen so they could have it back. Saying well, MxR didn't know the clips were owned by Junkin is not an excuse. No content creator should just take random stuff from the internet and assume it's free game to use. Everything is owned by somebody and just because you can't find who that original owner was doesn't mean you're free to just use it. Claiming ignorance is not a defense here. "Well the clips were on reddit and nobody seemed to care there"...so? Because somebody doesn't get in trouble in one location doesn't make something less illegal somewhere else. What MxR should do is lawyer up. Internet shaming Junkin Media is going to do nothing here. They're a business and they have a fairly valid claim against MxR for using their content without a license. Yes, the way Junkin Media went about dealing with this feels pretty scummy as it has the appearance of picking on the little guy, however, at the end of the day it is their content and they are allowed to charge whatever they want for people to use it legally. You can't just grab whatever you want from the internet and do what you want with it and claim fair use unless you understand what fair use actually means. And here, it really seems like MxR doesn't actually understand what fair use means. If they were "reviewing" the clips that would be one thing as that more clearly falls under criticism but "reacting" is really not a review. If I watch a movie and then say, "it was bad" at the end of the movie, I would have reacted to it. If I detail why it was bad and give examples from the movie saying exactly why it was bad, that's a review. The purpose of that review is to inform people about that piece of media which is different than the original purpose of the media to entertain (thus, transformative). A reaction is just watching somebody else be entertained (or not be entertained) by a piece of media.

    PacMonster0PacMonster010 місяців tagasi
    • Also wanted to add on to the argument that, "well their clips were only some small portion of the whole video", that defense doesn't really work for this particular kind of content. A reaction video tends to show the entire source material. Even if it's just a 15 second clip and the reaction video contains say 10 clips in it, that's 100% of somebody else's piece of content being used. This isn't the same scenario of say a movie reviewer using a 10 second clip from a movie to visualize a point they're trying to make about that scene. It would be one thing if the content creator was adding say illustrations or complicated edits or really going into a thorough analysis of the clip. Then the clip really would be a small portion of the overall effort that went into making the video. However, when it's just a collection of clips and the "effort" by the content creator is just doing the same kind of facial expressions and light commentary on what they're seeing then that is not really the same thing.

      PacMonster0PacMonster010 місяців tagasi
  • Ugh, here we go again! How can we agree on so many topics - yet this Jukin Media Copyright issue goes over your head. *YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT under Fair Use to PROFIT off of someone else's Copyright* . If you are reviewing or critiquing the work that is fair use. To use the product unchanged is NOT fair use, to use it exactly as the intended meaning in your own video is NOT Fair Use, to profit from using the product via ads is NOT Fair Use. Keep in mind, these people who gave their work to Jukin to manage on their behalf WANT to make money off their video. *YOU DON'T GET TO DECIDE FOR THESE PEOPLE who has to pay them or not* . YOU are not the original creator. You DO NOT get to make money off their video while they don't. Also, you can use said disputed videos by buying a license - like $49. Something you all seem to balk at. Hypocrites at what a Capital Free Market System is about yet all say you are for the free market.

    Colombian Muscle PapiColombian Muscle Papi10 місяців tagasi
  • Storm Jukin Media , they can’t stop all of us

    JayJay10 місяців tagasi
  • I would check out a channel called Legal eagle as he has done a video on this and as you can guess his channel is centred on law (also he is a lawyer) and he looks at this in terms of the law and not a right/ wrong which unfortunately is how law works.

    Matty BoucherMatty Boucher10 місяців tagasi
  • J. needs to be sued

    schmudgeschmudge10 місяців tagasi
  • Yo this is literally cyberpunk shit going on

    max paynemax payne10 місяців tagasi
  • anyone wanna help me DOX Jukin Media?

    The Doomsday DuckThe Doomsday Duck10 місяців tagasi
  • Breaking news: Jukin Media copyrights the feeling of nostalgia. If you've ever felt nostalgia for anything you owe Jukin $1500 per pop

    Barrett WellsBarrett Wells10 місяців tagasi
  • Don't see what the big deal is - Your channel gets shut down? Make a new one... Rinse, Repeat... Or... y'know... find a normal job, if you're done wasting time with EEworld?

    KosinussKosinuss10 місяців tagasi
  • that company is right.

    Point ManPoint Man10 місяців tagasi
    • No, they deserve the stake punishment.

      Devil sanDevil san10 місяців tagasi
  • A lot of people don't seem to understand that this wasn't fair use. One requirement is that it must be a transformative work, which this isn't. It is just memes and whatnot stripped from Reddit and read aloud. It matters not if small commentary was added, there was no significant transformative change. Another thing to consider is how much was stripped. A movie critique doesn't need to show the entirety of a movie, and neither does MxR, but they do anyways. It wasn't a snippet, they were frame by frame readings of the clips. Another factor of Fair Use is does the content appeal/steal the same audience. It certainly does, as again, it is just the exact meme ripped and read aloud.

    William BrehmWilliam Brehm10 місяців tagasi
    • That doesn't mean that fair use is fair or right. And in this case it isn't. It's a reaction channel like a lot have appeared recently, and you don't hear from THEM being extorted money. So regardless of fair use, that's still a messed up situation that deserves to make juken into an example to not mess with youtubers.

      Devil sanDevil san10 місяців tagasi
  • Nope. I think MxR is going to lose this case. His videos dont meet enough criteria to be fair use. All he does is say "hey thats cool" No criticism or real commentary on the videos.

    SuperMikeAttackSuperMikeAttack10 місяців tagasi
    • @Devil san yeah that's the problem. Its harmless, but if he's making money off of it or causing people to watch the videos on his channel rather than the owners or licensed person, then he's doing harm to them. His videos aren't transformative enough to meet fair use. It's the law.

      SuperMikeAttackSuperMikeAttack10 місяців tagasi
    • That's still a reaction video tho, he's not doing harmful stuff or anything like that ,he's just reacting to memes like memes video actually do.

      Devil sanDevil san10 місяців tagasi
  • When will someone post this to 4chan jukin want to charge us for our memes

    Matt 383Matt 38310 місяців tagasi
  • Over the last few years, I've considered starting a EEworld channel on more than one occasion. Though each time, I decide against it; looking through all the fine print and reading between the lines, they leave the door wide open for shit like this.

    Mercenary TauMercenary Tau10 місяців tagasi
    • Yup, youtube is a hellhole for content creators because youtube became a hungry bitch for easy money. Got to dailymition instead, they're cool.

      Devil sanDevil san10 місяців tagasi
  • I agree they are being unreasonable, but react videos are a cop-out in my opinion, using as little brain power as possible to make content. if that's your niche, you do you i'm aware it's popular, but personally i don't support it. love MxR's mod videos though.

    Polaris TripPolaris Trip10 місяців tagasi
    • It might seem lazy, but it can be a lot of work tho. I don't like reaction videos, but still. And generally, pepole wjo watch reaction videos are either seeking comfirmation on their opinions of something, or they simply like to see how their favorite personality reacts to stuff they tend to like

      Devil sanDevil san10 місяців tagasi
  • Here from LegalEagle's video on the topic. He covers the thing from a legal angle comprehensively. He looks at both sides and has a lot of *practical* stuff to say. I highly recommend everyone who's following this story to watch it.

    Javier PatagJavier Patag10 місяців tagasi
  • Mxr plays has done a good job at using the EEworld drama method to gain public support when they should have spoke to a lawyer or at least someone with legal expertise on how they should proceed. In one of their videos they start off by saying something like," I'm going to play a bunch of different videos in order to make Jeanie laugh." This isn't a strong case of fair use. You also can't expect to get rid of the fines by editing your videos after the fact. You can't return a stolen car and expect to remove any charges of auto theft. If you are using copyrighted videos through fair use, you don't have to worry about being charged for using copyrighted material. If you use copyrighted material in your video and just say it's funny, you should be more worried about being charged for using copyright material and learn about what constitutes fair use. What EEworld needs to do better is to better educate all content creators on what constitutes fair use. Playing a copyrighted video in the corner of the screen while showing footage of you laughing isn't much different front straight up reuploading the copyrighted video in the eyes of fair use.

    zeke kzeke k10 місяців tagasi
  • When Jukin Media says "rightful owners" they are refering to themselves not the original people who shot the videos. Jukin has also changed their name to Jukin Copyright Management...don't let them run!

    Shane DavidShane David10 місяців tagasi
  • Ethan and Hila were lucky that they went against some hobo instead of a company

    KakacarrotcakeKakacarrotcake10 місяців tagasi
  • Good, time to get a job.

    IamJacksColon4IamJacksColon410 місяців tagasi
  • This is exactly why you don’t negotiate with terrorists.

    Count FrackulaCount Frackula10 місяців tagasi
  • Yongyea, everything you’re saying about this topic is wrong. Jukin media is in the right here.

    hautehusseyhautehussey10 місяців tagasi
  • Ummm, Jukin media is actually in the right here. Why are so many commenters not realizing this? And all of the youtubers who are standing up for mxRplay are shooting themselves in the foot.

    hautehusseyhautehussey10 місяців tagasi
    • No, they aren't, they are not in risk. At all. And Jukin on the right... sorry, but no.

      3polygons3polygons10 місяців tagasi
  • I'm all for internet trolls getting their comeuppance but have you seen the video about this topic on Legaleagle. Being a laymen the points made their seems reasonable.

    Darcy GDarcy G10 місяців tagasi
  • To say it right away. The only way to bring justice to this is simply by sabotaging Jukin Media. How? If you have the chance to see if it is a video by Jukin Media you are about to watch, don't watch it. The only issue here is, that this will also hurt other EEworldrs that are with Jukin Media and have no real problem with MxR using those videos or whatever. But this is how big companies work these days. They can only get shown their place, if those people they try to "please" show how angry they are.

    DerethevilDerethevil10 місяців tagasi
  • Wow, i did not know that Yong is an actual copyright lawyer. Man he should just straight up go represent MxR pro bono if this is the case. Or you know, listen to the advice of actual lawyers who all said that Jukin actually has a case there, and that MxR got shafted because they were producing bottom of the barrel content that relied on others people content, instead of actually putting in enough effort for it to count as transformative work and thus be fair use.

    Pew PinPew Pin10 місяців tagasi
    • Not all lawyers are saying that. Indeed, most say that both parts are not really interested in carrying it to court. Jukin might have acted in an unlawful way with the 6000 $ thing. Certain kind of pressure and acts are borderline with not so pretty behaviors.

      3polygons3polygons10 місяців tagasi
  • *Jeannie cries* 200,000 units are ready, with a million well on the way. Obi wan: The balance in the copyright system has been shaken. The Fair-use Wars have begun.

    WarNPeaceWarNPeace10 місяців tagasi
  • EEworld in a sense is what you can call a "necessary evil". It's a grand repository for information, education, and entertainment-based videos. But at the same time because of the misguided and dysfunctional system made to protect only themselves and no one else, it now limits what content people can provide or you as a user is able to get. Now I understand that as a company they have laws to follow and have to protect their interest but even fast-food restaurants make some attempt at protecting the interest of their employees. It only makes sense if you want people to operate your stores because I'm sure customers aren't going to go to the restaurants, make their own food and then put the money in the registers at their own accord. It's something to think about EEworld. If creators are afraid to make content, how many active videos to do think you'll have available to swarm with back-to-back ads?

    First Don DiegoFirst Don Diego10 місяців tagasi
  • it's a reaction channel so nothing of value was lost

    Kal KumaKal Kuma10 місяців tagasi
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